Comments on: OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW

By: handsoff

handsoff — Fri, 25 May 2012 06:13:28 +0000

First let me state I am no fan of Obama, his policies his incoherent agenda or what seems to be his overweening desire to impose his dictatorship upon the disappearing Republic. That said, There is so much misinformation, misinterpretation of SCOTUS decisions, so much irrationality and no credible “evidence” posted herein that I fear for our country. Many of the posters herein are just like the illogical, irrational uniformed uneducated voters who put Obama in office.
Everything that has been posted that claims NBC requires 2 US citizen is wrong or that dual citizenship disqualifies. Jus soli is the standard of the US.The author of the 14th amendment even said so as did the majority opinions in all the Scotus cases legal opinions (Lynch, Elg, Look, Ark).
Vatell is not binding on the US constitution and was never cited as foundational to the Constitution. Vatell was only cited in 2 Scotus cases, a dissenting opinion and the majority opinion Dred Scott, which is not binding precedent on citizenship and is considered a shameful anomaly in US jurisprudence.
1948 British law does NOT determine US citizenship laws or trump them; in addition, that British law was in disarray and phased out starting in 1962 and as of 1963 Kenya was no longer British, but it was always Kenya (1st the Crown Colony of) then the Republic of Kenya, but always Kenya. Dual citizenship as a minor child, one natural born US citizenship and one acquired citizenship does not disqualify or negate the jus soli citizenship, unless at or by the age of 21, the dual citizen either renounces his birthright citizenship in the US or takes up residency in the US and is entitled to full rights, including eligibility to the Presidency if he can get elected (this was stated specifically in Steinkauler in 1975 and quoted and affirmed in Lynch which was cited as binding precedent in Ark, an unbroken chain of SCOTUS decisions regarding natural born citizenship and eligibility which has been applied to hearings re Obama and the decision is he is/was eligible. SCOTUS has declined Orly’s attempts to get any of the “evidence” before the Court and most lower courts have denied hearings on lack of standing to sue, baseless and frivolous and/or nuisance suits.
Obama may have had a different name when he was born, and the birth certificate was changed, altered or reissued when he was adopted by Soetero. That is the practice of many states upon adoption, to change the name and some facts, but not the birthplace if in the US. In fact, foreign born children adopted by US citizens usually get birth certificates stating US birth, at least that is what my neighbors who have adopted 2 Korean born babies said. When Obama was 10, Stanley Anne Dunham had already moved him back to Hawaii, and sought to reverse the adoption, which is probably when the name was changed to Barack Hussein Obama II (which by the way, indicates no blood relationship to a Sr) and Barack H. Obama Sr was put on the birth certificate (the marriage was never legal and Sr was probably not the father). The birthdate of Sr is different than immigration documents show and the name is spelled differently (Barak on immigration documents). As a minor child, Obama would have no control over any of this. The Indonesian school enrollment documents cited by many “birthers” as proof of Indonesian citizenship clearly show and they admit this, that Obama, known as Barry Soetero between the age of 3-10 was born in Hawaii. Natural born citizenship in the US cannot be stripped from a minor child who may hold dual citizenship because of parentage until the age of 21, but the fact of a second acquired citizenship does not bar a natural born citizen from that citizenship.
Regarding the alleged SS# issue, it is a non issue. No one can have access to another’s SS# legally. Until 2003, when it became a de facto Nat’l id through a P.L., it could not be used for or required for any purpose other than Tax returns and SS benefits. (now, because of the Patriot Act and regulations, each state DMV as of 2005 is required to obtain an everified SS# for a driver’s license. E verify is supposed to be for employers and state DMV’s only. How a “homemaker” and a PI could independently obtain a SS #, insist it was used by Obama (where is the proof he used it on his tax returns for the last 25 yrs) and e-verify it may constitute misuse of a SS#, but not by Obama. SS# are not required to register to vote, or to own property and cannot be disclosed by law, to anyone, so the contentions, affidavits and/or sworn testimony of a PI is unverifiable opinion at best and perjury if given knowing its specious nature. The affidavit or testimony said no known connection to CT, but that is a lie or just bad research, because Barack Hussein Obama Sr was a resident of CT while in school. Plus, sworn testimony is not true evidence that the SS# is used by Obama nor can it be. I don’t remember the exact year, but it was well after Obama was an adult that SS# were assigned at birth (EUB). There may be records of his US school enrollment in LA, CA but I don’t remember if a birth certificate was required in the late 60′s and early 70′s. I do know that a SS# was not usually obtained until for work purposes you were required to have one, and his mother would have had to supply a birth certificate then to the SSA. Anything that happened before his 21st birthday is on his mother and grandparents; they may have told him stories that the abandoned, and probably emotionally abused child was desperate to believe and/or romanticize in order to ease his insecurities.
BTW, The book that was probably written by Bill Ayres (it is his style and his phrasing and his ideology) is Dreams FROM my father, not as has been posted Dreams of my father. There is a major difference… There are too few accuracies in the birther arguments.
It is time to go after Obama on what is possible-vote the legal bastard out. It is the only play we have left.

By: James E White

James E White — Sun, 06 May 2012 16:53:05 +0000

In my 82 years I have never feared the election of our President as I do now.
With all that has recently taken place in this United States, the re-election of this
unknown person will eventually create a ‘Dictatorship’. How can a person get away with his history & still be ‘Our President’?
JW

By: johnschweitzer

johnschweitzer — Fri, 27 Apr 2012 01:45:01 +0000

Let’s get a supreme court justice to swear in Joe Biden as President.Congress needs to start filing charges against obama and some of his jack-leg thugs.

By: Bill Skadder

Bill Skadder — Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:59:25 +0000

All this is mute, why you ask, because the leadership in this country, State/Federal are corrupt. Voting is now corrupt/dishones. Congressman/woman, Senators, all want a piece of the pie. Their first priority is getting into the “club” of politics, which pays very well with lifetime incentives at our (the people) expense. The two parties only care about themselves, we the people come last. We have been screwed over so bad by the govenment, and lied to over and over. You really don’t realize how bad a shape this country and our present leadership have put this country in. And we have gotten so f—–k lazy we just sit by and watch, complain, but don’t do a f—-g thing about it. Washington will do anything to protect it’s own, lie, steal, cheat. they live by a double standard. We break the law, we pay or go to jail, they somehow find a loop hole. Unless the people of this nation wake up and start voicing their concerns, it will only get worse until the Govt. is in your house telling you what to cook, when to shit

By: Max

Max — Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:08:05 +0000

Lets be honest, everyone who is happy about this wouldn’t vote for him anyway, and probably didn’t in the first place. Its not going to change anything, he will win again in 2012, since the GOP can’t bring anyone worth their salt to the table. Deal with it.

By: Jon

Jon — Mon, 05 Mar 2012 07:41:36 +0000

(Hi National Patriot. Am circulating this new song of mine. Jon)

[To Whom... I'm a Gospel music songwriter who recently penned the following. I need to find someone who can create a tune for it and find a publisher and will split 50/50 on the royalties. You are free to "test the waters" by publishing these stanzas, but you must include "Copyright 2012 by Jon Edwards." God bless America! Jon]

MY BIRTH CERTIFICATE

(1) When I was born in this old world my birth was certified
And written down on paper so it could not be denied;
I can’t remember being born but do have proof of when:
I have the birth certificate a doctor issued then.

(2) In later years I was convicted of my dreadful sin
And learned that Jesus would forgive and come to live within;
What happened was an inward change we call the “second birth”
Which I do value more than all the gold upon the earth.

(3) Some folks can’t furnish written proof they’ve ever had a birth
For they have lost all papers that they’ve ever had on earth;
And some will cover up the facts of all their darkened past
By changing birth certificates so they won’t finish last.

(4) My “born again” certificate cannot be changed by pen
Or by a crafty rustler’s art or other wicked men;
It’s signed in blood eternally, as binding as can be—-
Christ signed it with His precious blood He shed for you and me!

By: Larry

Larry — Fri, 02 Mar 2012 06:17:22 +0000

Birthers…give it up please!

By: Gisela

Gisela — Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:39:44 +0000

the fact that this judge has made no decission based on the no show of Obama and his lawyer tells me that nothing will happen and Obama once again is laughing his a— off at those of us who are frustrated that he is getting away with murder (literally). Why on earth is our congress so spineless there is enough information that could be prooven that could impeach him.Obviously the democrats beat around the bush when it came to check his eligebillity and the republicans just said yeah is is ok and now we have the mess.
I still believe Obama is a Muslim and somehow was pushed in to this position by Sorrows and heaven knows what other thugs to ruin our country. So many Americans couldn’t see him for what he is. He is slick and arrogant and if we don’t vote him out,our country as we use to know it is gone.

By: Nancy Gross

Nancy Gross — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:01:56 +0000

It’s time for Obama to go. Has been since the day he was elected. Problem is that democrats will vote democratic no matter who the candidate is. It would be such a blessing to this country if all states would declare him off the ballot. IN GOD WE TRUST, please dear Father get this man out of here!!!

By: MSGT JOHN CORREA

MSGT JOHN CORREA — Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:23:18 +0000

I may be late in pointing out an important issue; a foreign-born or domestic enemy can be charged under the catagory of “Saboteur” simply by its definition, for which, the foreign-born Muslim communist Mr. Barack Hussein Obama II can be charged with since he has violated many areas of the United States Constitution and its Bill of Rights, not to mention the ” cause’ of our Founding Fathers dream of a free nation for future generations.

“Saboteur”…. “the deliberate obstruction of or damage to any “cause,” movement, activity, effort, etc.” There you are folks; let’s use it against the foreign-born tyrant dictator now!

MSGT JOHN CORREA
USAF (RET)